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Repeating A Lie For Political Advantage

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I think one of the things that consistently makes Americans mad is the idea that they are being lied to. A lot of Americans have reached the point where they do not believe anything a political figure says. That may or may not be justified, but it is unfortunate. A lie that is consistently told by the political left to smear President Trump is making the rounds again courtesy of President Biden.

Breitbart posted an article about the lie on Thursday.

The article reports:

President Joe Biden repeated the infamous “very fine people hoax” on Thursday evening in Brussels, Belgium, falsely claiming that his predecessor praised neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017.

The president was speaking at a press conference to close the NATO summit on Ukraine. A European reporter asked the president how he could be sure that his successor in 2024 would not undo his diplomatic approach to NATO. (President Trump irked European powers by demanding that they live up to their NATO commitment of spending at least 2% of gross domestic product on defense. Germany belatedly agreed, finally, to meet its commitment only after Russia had invaded Ukraine.)

Biden, claiming that he did not think about his foreign policy decisions in purely electoral terms, referred to the familiar original story that he has told since 2019 when claiming that Charlottesville motivated him to come out of retirement and run for president.

I made the commitment, when I ran this time, I wasn’t going to run again, and I mean that sincerely, I had no intention of running for president again, until I saw those folks coming out of the fields in Virginia carrying torches and carrying Nazi banners, and literally singing the same vile rhyme they used in Germany in the early twenties, or thirties I should say, and then the gentleman you mentioned [Trump] was asked what he thought and a young woman was killed, a protester, and he was asked what he thought, he said there were “very good people”‘ on both sides. And that’s when I decided I wasn’t going to be quiet any longer.

For nearly two years, Biden stood by the hoax, even when presented personally and directly with evidence that it was false:

…As Breitbart News and others, notably cartoonist Scott Adams and political commentator Steve Cortes, have demonstrated for years, President Trump said he condemned the neo-Nazis “totally.“ When Trump used the term “very fine people,“ he was referring explicitly to peaceful protesters on either side of a dispute about the removal of a local confederate statue.

The transcript of Trump’s remarks is clear: he said that when he referred to “very fine people,” he was talking about peaceful protesters, and “not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.”

Trump also specifically condemned the murder of protester Heather Heyer, saying it was potentially “terrorism.”

The Charlottesville “very fine people hoax” was shattered in full public view last year when former President Trump’s defense lawyers exposed it as a fraud during Trump’s second impeachment trial.

…Biden also falsely claimed that police officers were killed in the capital riot last January.

This sort of lying is one of many reasons most Americans do not believe anything a politician says.

Unfortunately Lies Are A Part Of The Campaign Season

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Yesterday Breitbart posted an article about some recent lies told by Kamala Harris. The Senator told the lies to back up her accusation that President Trump is a racist. Even a casual look at President Trump’s actions before running for President show that the charge is false, but the Democrats keep making the charge anyway. Just as an aside, I would like to point out that President Trump literally fought city hall to assure that his luxury resort in Florida would allow blacks and Jews to join. That doesn’t sound very racist to me.

The article lists the lies told on “60 Minutes” by Senator Harris:

(1) [Birtherism] Trump questioned Obama’s eligibility to be president. He did the same with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who was born in Canada (and later produced evidence of his mother’s U.S. birth). Trump applies the same standard to everyone. (Proof.)

(2) [Charlottesville] Trump never said the neo-Nazis were “fine people.” In fact, he said they should be “condemned totally.” Harris knows that she is lying, because Vice President Mike Pence told her the truth to her face at their debate earlier this month. (Proof.)

(3) [“Mexicans”] Trump did not refer to Mexicans as rapists and criminals. He was referring to people who entered the U.S. illegally, making clear that he was not even talking about all illegal immigrants: “And some, I assume, are good people.” (Proof.)

(4) [“Muslim ban”] Trump never imposed a “Muslim ban.” He restricted travel from terror-prone countries identified under Obama. Most Muslim states were unaffected, and the ban was upheld at the Supreme Court. Non-Muslim countries are on the list.

Unfortunately none of these lies will be acknowledged as such by the mainstream media.

Misquoting For Political Purposes

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The only reason this story has not died is that the Democrats keep lying about it and people who know the truth keep correcting them.

Yesterday Real Clear Politics posted an article by Scott Adams (the creator of Dilbert) about some remarks Joe Biden made in his acceptance speech at the Democrat National Convention. Either he knew he was lying or he is misinformed. Neither one is a good look for a presidential candidate.

We are back at the quote from President Trump regarding Charlottesville.

The article includes the entire quote. This is the quote from President Trump:

You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

This is the quote from former Vice-President Joe Biden:

Just a week ago yesterday was the third anniversary of the events in Charlottesville.

Remember seeing those neo-Nazis and Klansmen and white supremacists coming out of the fields with lighted torches? Veins bulging? Spewing the same anti-Semitic bile heard across Europe in the ’30s?

Remember the violent clash that ensued between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it?

Remember what the president said?

There were quote, “very fine people on both sides.“

This is a myth that the Democrats are continuing the embrace. The Democrats claim that they are the party that will unify Americans. How does lying about what the President said create anything but disunity? In perpetuating the lie they are telling, the Democrats are creating racial division. That is unacceptable.

If The Facts Get In The Way, Just Make It Up

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The seeds for the division we now see in the country were sown years ago. Some were sown during the Obama administration when lies were told about the way the police treated different races. The seeds of division were sown when people like the New Black Panthers were not charged after intimidating voters at a polling place in Philadelphia despite a video showing the events. The seeds were sown when the IRS treated certain groups differently when they applied for 501c3 status. One of the biggest lies that has been told that has sown division is the misquoting of a statement made by President Trump after the riots in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Ann Althouse reminds us of this lie (and the fact that it has continued) in an article on her blog.

She notes:

Biden put up that tweet last night after the speech. This post is to look at the transcript of the speeches that Biden and Harris gave at their event yesterday and to pull out the Charlottesville quotes

We have a racial justice crisis Donald Trump seeks only to inflame it with his politics of racist rhetoric and appeals to division. Today’s not only the day I’m proud to introduce Senator Kamala Harris as the vice presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. It’s also the third anniversary of that terrible day in Charlottesville. Remember? Remember what it felt like to see those neo-Nazis, close your eyes, and those Klansmen, white supremacists, coming out of fields…

Real Clear Politics posted the real President Trump quote:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group.  But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.  You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did.  You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

This is the quote that is being ignored:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.” 

Joe Biden is either lying or he is misinformed. Neither one is a good look for a presidential candidate.

Please follow the link to the article by Ann Althouse that is linked above for the whole story.

We Need To Ask What Has Changed

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There is a lot of talk on the news yesterday and today about the tragedy in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday. But I think there are a few things that are being left out of the discussion. The first is the right of Americans to hold differing views, even if some of us regard those views as despicable or unacceptable. The First Amendment gives us the right to be offensive. The First Amendment does not give anyone the right to violence.

In 1977, the leader of the Nazi Party in America announced that he was organizing a march on Skokie, Illinois, home of many Jewish people and many holocaust survivors. Horrendous idea, but legal. At first the city tried to block the march, but eventually the courts said that the march could go forward because of the First Amendment. As awful as this was, it was allowed under the First Amendment. The First Amendment allows free speech–it does not encourage the censorship of certain speech, even though that speech may be unacceptable to many of us.

According to a Jewish Telegraphic Agency article from 2013, this is what happened the day the march actually occurred:

The NSPA (Nationalist Socialist Party of America) march was held on June 25, 1978, though the march never materialized. About 20 or so  Nazis congregated for only ten minutes, and throngs of Jewish and other groups drowning out their voices. Jewish organizations planned counter marches not only in Skokie, but in New York City and other places.

Meir Kahane also held a rally in 1977, after the initial cancellation but prior to the court rulings permitting it to go ahead. Kahane urged a crowd estimated at 400 to “kill Nazis now” and to arm themselves, exhorting them: “Every Jew a .22.”

President Carter also issued a statement: “I must respect the decision of the Supreme Court allowing this group (the Nazis) to express their views, even when those views are despicable and ugly as they are in this case. But if such views must be expressed, I am pleased they will not go unanswered. That is why I want to voice my complete solidarity with those citizens of Skokie and Chicago who will gather Sunday in a peaceful demonstration of their abhorrence of Nazism.”

Why was the city of Skokie able to avoid the type of violence we saw in Charlottesville? Was it simply a matter of numbers? Another thing to keep in mind was that not all the people demonstrating in Charlottesville were racists, white supremacists, neo-Nazis, etc. I am sure there were people who were there simply to protest the tearing down of national monuments and the erasing and rewriting of our history.

There was also a very interesting post at The Gateway Pundit yesterday which included the following:

FOX News reporter Doug McKelway attended the violent protests Saturday in Charlottesville, Virginia.

…This was after violent Antifa terrorists launched an attack on the white supremacists.

Doug McKelway: We are now beginning to hear criticism bubble up on all sides of this event about the initial slow response by the police. When I got out of my car yesterday in Charlottesville about 10:30 in the morning you knew this was a bad scene and bad things were going to be happening because people were congregating at Lee Park and Emancipation Park wearing helmets, body armor, carrying big heavy sticks. Nobody was intent on peace here from either side. People were intent on causing havoc and causing damage. And even as wounded were being brought out of the park police were sitting idly by. I was standing off a cordoned off area where the police had set up as a staging area, the state police, and they said you can come in here this is a safe area. But when the tear gas started to fly, thrown by protesters, the police themselves began to evacuate then. I asked the guy who was in charge, “Where you going?” He said, “We’re leaving. It’s too dangerous.” They had a chance to nip this thing in the bud and they chose not to.

We had riots in Baltimore when the police stood down. We had riots in Berkley when the police stood down. What is going on here?